Switching electric provider | Utility Warehouse & Electricity Bills
Nov 20

For nearly a decade, we’ve been able to shop around for cheaper gas & electricity. Competition means its possible to switch to a utility company offering better energy prices ( cheaper gas and electric bills to you and me ) or better service. But things can still go wrong, from inaccurate bills to power cuts – and even being switched to another utility supplier without your consent. Here is a 2 minute guide to help you out.

Switching to a new energy company

As always in the rush to sign up new customers, some energy companies use high-pressure sales tactics to persuade people to switch utility suppliers. There have even been cases of more underhand tactics, such as sales staff forging customers’ signatures on energy contracts. As the industry has cleaned up its act these are becoming less and less common. Most of the new big energy providers like the utility warehouse have glossy web sites and very strict rules , just google them for details about there best buy recommendation from Which Magazine.

But there are rules that energy salespeople must follow. If they don’t, in some cases you could be entitled to compensation from your energy supplier.

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Association of Energy Suppliers’ code of practice

This covers how energy companies and salespeople must behave when selling gas and electricity ‘face-to-face’ (for example, in your home or in a shopping centre). The guidelines say, among other things, that energy salespeople:

  • can call at your home only between 9am and 8pm (unless you ask for a visit outside these times)
  • must say who they are and show you a valid identity card
  • must do their best to make sure you understand any contract you’ve signed, and your right to cancel
  • must not exploit consumers, give them false information or use high-pressure sales tactics
  • must leave your home if you ask them to.

Also, if an energy salesperson has forged a signature on your contract, you are entitled to £250 compensation.

A full copy of the code is available from the Energy Retail Association website. All energy sales agents must be accredited by this code and can be dismissed or even ‘struck off’ as a member if they breach it. If you think that a sales agent has broken the code of practice, contact the energy supplier and tell them why.

Doorstep Selling Regulations

If you sign up to a new energy supplier when a salesperson calls at your home, the Doorstep Selling Regulations give you a seven-day cooling-off period during which you can cancel your contract.

But this applies only to unsolicited visits, which means if an energy salesperson calls at your home uninvited or phones you and you agree for them to visit. It doesn’t apply if you make the first move and ask an energy salesperson to visit you.

The energy salesperson must tell you about the cooling-off period. It’s a criminal offence to breach these regulations, and doing so can result in a fine of up to £2,500.

If a doorstep energy salesperson won’t allow you to cancel within the seven days, or you think they’ve broken the regulations in another way, contact your local trading standards department.

If you’re switched to a new energy supplier by mistake

If you have been switched by mistake, the Erroneous Transfer Customer Charter sets out what the suppliers should do to put things right. It says:

  • you can contact either the original or the new energy supplier – they share equal responsibility for resolving the problem
  • the energy supplier you contact should explain clearly what action they’re going to take and keep you updated with progress
  • you should receive written confirmation of the details provided above within five working days of first contacting the energy supplier
  • within 20 working days you should receive confirmation that you are being returned to your original supplier
  • you shouldn’t have to pay any bills from the ‘new’ energy supplier – you’ll just get a bill at the end from your original energy supplier.

If you think that an energy supplier has breached this code, contact your energy supplier in the first instance and follow its complaints process. If the problem is not resolved satisfactorily, contact Consumer Direct for further advice on how to proceed. You can also have your problem referred to the Energy Services Ombudsman if the case isn’t resolved after eight weeks or you reach a ‘deadlock’ situation (see our How to complain section). Vulnerable consumers can also enlist the help of energy industry watchdog Consumer Focus.

Nov 15

How to use less Electricity

Simple energy Saving advice can help you reduce your electricity bills by even more by simply just cutting back on the amount of electricity you use.

We have outlined a few simple every day tips that you can use to help you save energy and of course save money.

Once you get in to a routine of doing these things you will start to notice the difference , your electricity bills will be cheaper and you will be doing your bit for the environment too..

Every day ways to Save Energy

  • Do not leave appliances such as TVs, videos, stereos, and computers on standby  ( with the little red light on ) as they still use energy when they are left on. Did you know that almost 85% of the energy used by your DVD player is consumed when it is on standby.
  • Put a lid on your sauce pan when you cook as this massively reduces the amount of gas your cooker needs to heat the water
  • When filling an electric kettle fill the cup(s) with water and pour this in to the kettle to avoid over filling it.
  • Unplug equipment e.g. mobile phones, shavers and electric toothbrushes once they are fully charged, otherwise they will keep drawing electricity. Some more modern chargers will whistle if they are plugged in and not charging , most older types don’t. Just feel yours , if it warm its costing you money.
  • When you leave a room turn off the light , this is something my mum used to say to me !!
  • Pull the curtains shut to help save the heat escaping from the room in the evenings. Most of the heat you produce leaves to house , the roof and walls are well insulated normally but windows are just glass , the fabric will make a huge difference.
  • Only do you washing when you have a full load and use a low temperature program. Two half loads does not equal a full load.
  • Try to have more showers than baths as they use 80% less water and take 80% less energy to heat the water
  • Turn down your room thermostats by a few degrees will make a big difference in the amount of energy you use.
  • Put a jumper on indoors if you feel cold, its easy and cheaper in the long run

Ways to improve your home

Please follow our energy saving advice below to help improve your home to make it more energy efficient.

  • Changing your light bulbs to use energy efficient bulbs. These may be more expensive in the short term to buy but they last around 12 times longer and can save you on average £7 a year on your bills for each light you use them in.
  • Loft insulation costs from around £150 and could save up to £70 a year. There are a number of grants available in the UK to possibly help you get part payment towards this.
  • Draught proofing windows and doors costs from around £40 and could save up to £20 a year on your energy bills.
  • Secondary glazing on windows costs from around £120 and could save up to £125 a year
  • A simple tip is try filling those gaps under skirting boards and between floorboards with newspaper, or mastic sealant costs from £10 and could save up to £20 a year

Other things to consider is to move your gas and electricity supplier to a new low cost provider , whilst you wont use less energy you will notice up to a 35% savings in your bill. Look at THIS supplier, it one of many but a great place to start.

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Nov 11

Inaccurate energy bills and meter readings

According to www.noteservice2010.com most complaints about energy companies are about inaccurate, late or unclear bills. In 2005, new standards for bills were introduced to make things easier for consumers after watchdog Energywatch (now part of Consumer Focus) complained to Ofgem, the energy companies’ regulator.

Code of Practice for Accurate Bills

The Code of Practice for Accurate Bills says, among other things, that:

  • your energy supplier should try to read your meter at least every two years. If it can’t access your meter, the energy company will ask you to take a reading
  • if you do not receive a bill for more than a year and it is the energy supplier’s fault, you do not have to pay any outstanding debt for energy you used more than a year ago.

If you have a dispute about a bill you can complain to your energy supplier or the Energy Supply Ombudsman, an independent body set up to resolve disputes about energy bills. The service is free to consumers and the Ombudsman can award compensation to people who have received particularly poor service from an energy supplier.

Dealing with poor service from energy companies

When you sign up with an energy supplier, you will have to sign a contract. This will include the standards of service your energy supplier promises, for example, how often it will read your gas and electricity meters and how it will respond to queries and complaints. Where service standards are part of your contract, the energy supplier is legally bound to stick to them.

All gas and electricity companies must also follow Guaranteed Standards of Performance set by Ofgem. These say energy suppliers must pay fixed compensation for things such as power cuts, missed appointments and not responding to queries.

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Feb 17

We are positively furious. We have both been Florida Power and Light customers since 2006 when we moved here. Since then, we’ve lived at two addresses. We stayed at the first address for one year, then moved into a new place where we have both been for over a year now without change. Every month, my fiance receives our bills and pays them online. He did not notice this until yesterday, but we stopped receiving our power bill from FPL 2 months ago. He received a phone call stating that we were two months past due and our power would be shut off this morning. My fiance frantically searched the house, thinking he might have misplaced the bills, but of course did not find them. The customer service rep was inconceivably rude and claimed that they had NOT ceased to send us our bills, but rather, they were now going to our "new address." We haven’t moved in over a year. We explained that there must be some mistake, but she argued with him and said that someone had called and changed our billing address. Long story short, we spoke to several representatives including a Billing Supervisor who refused to give us any information about who called, when they called, and what address it was changed it. I was furious and demanded to know how they would allow anyone to call who is not authorized on the account and simply change our billing address. It seems like someone is lying here. The customer service reps said, "My system isn’t showing me any information about the change. I can just tell you that someone called and changed your billing address so we started to forward your bills to the new address." Also, FPL no longer takes VISA – they only take mastercard and they REFUSED to allow us an extension so we could mail them a check and pay the bill. We finally spoke to a VERY, VERY rude woman who said that we had been paying on a "closed account" – I’m not sure what this has to do with anything, but FPL has always accepted our payments since we moved. There is so much in this situation that I’m confused about. What might have really happened here? NO ONE would have called and changed our billing address. That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. We don’t really even know anyone here and we have a locked mailbox. I’m FURIOUS that they refuse to give us, authorized account holders, any information about this mysterious "change of billing address" and refuse to explain how this could have happened. We can’t switch power companies; they are the only service provider – which explains their AWFUL customer service and lack of regard. What can I do here? I have never been so outraged in my life. We spent 3 hours on the phone with them last night trying to get this figured out and everyone we spoke to, including a supervisor, was rude and refused to give us any information.

I was going to tell you to report the rude person but it seems like they all related. If and when you call and get this "Howard" on the phone report to him the rudeness you and your fiance received. Now try this ..get a copy of the last bill you received from them and look for an e-mail address you can find to look at your bill on line. If you can do this you should be able to find the address. If you cant find one be real nice and call the company and ask then how you can look at your bill on line try not to give your name or anything else or if that does not work ask a friend to ask about seeing their bill and then they can give you the information. Do you have a lawyer or police friend? Ask them to help you get that address. That way you will have something to work with. You can go to the location of the address but do not confront the owners of the address. Watch out as FPL may try to get you to put up a deposit. If you can get hold of your canceled canceled checks so you can show them. Hope this helps even a little bit.

Feb 16

I have a disconnect notice for next friday. However, I have been officially switched to another provider as of yesterday. Since I don’t actually get paid until 2 wks from now, do I need to worry about the disconnect notice, or will I be ok to pay in 2 weeks or when they send the final bill?

just call them and ask, and be very sweet to them…..I have a rule…..never mess with utility providers….because they can let you have it…!!!lol (cut you service off, and then require a large deposit)

Feb 14

Willys cynical thought for the day;

In my web research, Declaration of Independence, etc., I have yet to find where the government says they’ll be my freaking mommy! So you goddamn politicians stay the hell out of my life and pockets AZZHOLES!

The Nanny State (I got this in a Biker email rag)

Worrying about bacteria, New Jersey banned restaurants from serving eggs sunny side up. The ban has since been lifted. Some New Jersey localities have a ban on people pumping their own gasoline. Policemen issue citations for driving without a seatbelt. By law new cars must be equipped with air bags. Federal law mandates that all new toilets flush using a paltry 1.6 gallons of water. Georgia’s governor mandates that classical music be given to all new mothers so as to aid infant IQ development. California, and others, has banned smoking in bars. Clinton wants a law passed banning smoking within 100 feet of a federal building. In parts of Ohio, children going trick-or-treating must obtain a special permit. These intrusions and more were recently revealed by television journalist John Stossel on ABC’s 20/20. The stated motivation behind this gross intrusion and criminalization of private behavior is to protect us from making unwise choices.

John Stossel asked Ricardo Martinez, head of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), why can’t people at least have air bag on/off switches. Martinez responded by saying that society makes decisions about what benefits most people, and most people benefit from air bags. Stossel interviewed Yale University’s Professor Kelley D. Brownell, director of the Center for Eating & Weight Disorders who thinks Americans eat too many hamburgers and French fries. Professor Brownell wants government to tax fatty foods and those with little nutritional content and use the proceeds to subsidize fruits, vegetables and other nutritious foods. He’s suggested that some of the tax proceeds be used to build bike and hiking trails.

I’m wondering just when Americans are going to decide that we’ve had enough government meddling in our lives. It is nobody’s business whether I eat eggs sunny side up, drive without wearing seat belts, or pig out on hamburgers and French fries. I’d like someone to show me Congress’s constitutional authority for government protecting me from making unwise choices. Those who believe government should be in the business of making us take care of ourselves, should tell us where does it all end? Should government decide what time we go to bed? After all sleep is vital to good health. Should government force us to exercise, read wholesome literature, and bathe regularly?

The people who advocate a nanny government (a better term is Nazi government) are cowards. You say, "What do you mean, William?" Take Kelley Brownell. If he doesn’t want me to eat that Big Mac and French fries, let him walk up to my table and remove them from my plate. He wants no part of doing that because he doesn’t want to meet his maker this year so he prefers using the brutal forces of government. "The rest is mine;

When I was young, bullies use to pick on me, take food off my lunch tray and otherwise harass me. That’s until I followed the advice of my father who told me that if you let a bully get away with one thing, the next day it’s going to be something else and the following day something else again. He told me that the bullying won’t stop until I decide to stand up and fight. He said that even if I lose the fight, the next time I’m bullied, stand up and fight again. Let the bully know that when he bullies, win, lose or draw, he has a fight on his hands. Eventually he will stop. I think Americans should employ my Dad’s advice. As long as we stand as lambs before the slaughter you can bet that there’ll be no end to Congress’s bureaucratic stooges bullying us.

This is still America, last I checked anyway, yes we have ‘freedom’ here but ‘freedom’ is, never was and never will be ‘Free.’ Those of us who like to eat hamburgers and greasy fries must take responsibility by a) walking around with a big butt b) doing exercise or c) (in my case) taking cholesterol lowering pills and *trying* to stay away from the greasy stuff.

If we don’t want to wear seatbelts, or helmets, WE, not Congress, must pay in pain, time (in hospitals, rehabs w/e), or loss of body parts. I’m firmly convinced I would never have survived, some of, the accidents I was in had I been hog-tied to the seat. The insurance companies, and Medical providers, ALWAYS lobby for these laws but I haven’t heard of a single case where after such a law was passed the insurance company says, "Oh with your 20 year perfect driving record (not mine) we’ve decided that your next ___ year’s insurance is on us." Has a hospital ever said, "Now that our ER doctors and nurses won’t have to be patching up all the accidents maybe we should offer breast enlargement at half price?" Now stop laughing and reread this paragraph in it, under sarcasm, is the point I’m trying to make. The answer to both is NO! And unless an insurance company or hospital administrator is reading this, and wants to prove me wrong, I don’t think it ever will be!

The ‘it’s good for you’ doesn’t stop at the things listed above. What if a slimy politician took it in his, or her, head that tattooing is wrong? Or certain subjects can’t be tattooed on anybody? Like large breasted blondes, skulls, flames, or spider webs? I hope I’m NOT giving them any ideas because I have all these. This can be taken as far as you want to go like; they pass a law that ONLY Army, Marine, Navy, Airforce w/e tattoos are kosher. Or just Democrat or Republican ink is allowed. How about the ONLY lower back, female, tattoo that will be allowed is a ‘GodSmack Sun?’ Okay tattooists stop salivating imagining how much business you’ll get by people running out to get their favorite tattoo done. And remember the upswing will only last until enforcement duties are figured out, i.e., the local Police, County cops, State Police or help us all if the FBI gets the job. Actually help them I don’t need any help!

And of course that’s not the only thing ‘good for you.’ This has been tried but what if Congress actually passed a law banning Rock & Roll, Country, Blues, Rock-a-Billy or Rap music. Or what if they legislate pianos, Violins and Trumpets are the only acceptable instruments? No electric guitars, fiddles, Blues Harps or Saxophones? And of course subsidizing lessons is another way to do, almost, the same thing!

Americans are lucky the founding fathers came from Europe where Religion – a belief in their God – was considered ‘good for you’ so it was mandated in some places; which is where ‘The First Amendment’ came from. If European governments had mandated seatbelts on cable cars and horses, and or required at least 4 oz. of meat at dinner — chicken, beef or fish — there may have been another Bill of Rights. This one saying, something like, "Congress shall make no law requiring citizens to do anything somebody thinks will be good for them." Unless, of course, any of them made, or sold, seatbelts or had anything to do with producing, or selling, meat. In 1776 that was, almost, everybody. This was long before people either ate meat or were vegetarians. In fact getting enough to eat was more important than the cholesterol!" Now a few quotes;

"The career of a politician mainly consists in making one part of the nation do what it does not want to do, in order to please and satisfy the other part of the nation. It is the prolonged sacrifice of the rights of some persons at the bidding and for the satisfaction of other persons. The ruling idea of the politician – stated rather bluntly – is that those who are opposed to him exist for the purpose of being made to serve his ends, if he can get power enough in his hands to force these ends upon them." — Auberon Herbert

"There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him." — Robert Heinlein

"The most basic question is not what is best but who shall decide what is best." — Thomas Sowell

http://www.total-knowledge.com/~willyblues/
From; Willys Jokes archieves
To B D; your points was covered; like here; The insurance companies, and Medical providers, ALWAYS lobby for these laws but I haven’t heard of a single case where after such a law was passed the insurance company says, "Oh with your 20 year perfect driving record (not mine) we’ve decided that your next ___ year’s insurance is on us." Has a hospital ever said, "Now that our ER doctors and nurses won’t have to be patching up all the accidents maybe we should offer breast enlargement at half price?" Now stop laughing and reread this paragraph in it, under sarcasm, is the point I’m trying to make. The answer to both is NO! And unless an insurance company or hospital administrator is reading this, and wants to prove me wrong, I don’t think it ever will be!

I’ve had this & been posting it a while and ain’t any insurance companies trying to prove me wrong!

We the people of the United States of America, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote general welfare, and secure the blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity do ordain and establish this constitution of the United States of America.
Following this preamble are the 27 ammendments to the Constituition. Nowhere in there do they mention anything about making mommy and daddy laws for your own freaking good. If I want a smoke, I have to go outside and fifteen feet away from an entrance or exit to a building. If you want to ride a motorcycle without a helmet, you better watch what state you are in. If you want to share ideas on the internet, watch your language, the yahoo police might be watching. You wouldn’t want to hurt anyones delicate feelings or dissrupt the sheltered lives they live by injecting any new ideas. You keep up the writing and great quotes. I will post answers thanking you until I get kicked offa yahoo. I might not always agree with you but D*** I love freedom of expression. Some folks would even try to limit that, ef them if they can’t take a joke.

Feb 13

Reliant is just too high $$$

This is a telephone forum, not electric service!

Feb 10

Willys cynical thought for the day;

In my web research, Declaration of Independence, etc., I have yet to find where the government says they’ll be my freaking mommy! So you goddamn politicians stay the hell out of my life and pockets AZZHOLES!

The Nanny State (I got this in a Biker email rag)

Worrying about bacteria, New Jersey banned restaurants from serving eggs sunny side up. The ban has since been lifted. Some New Jersey localities have a ban on people pumping their own gasoline. Policemen issue citations for driving without a seatbelt. By law new cars must be equipped with air bags. Federal law mandates that all new toilets flush using a paltry 1.6 gallons of water. Georgia’s governor mandates that classical music be given to all new mothers so as to aid infant IQ development. California, and others, has banned smoking in bars. Clinton wants a law passed banning smoking within 100 feet of a federal building. In parts of Ohio, children going trick-or-treating must obtain a special permit. These intrusions and more were recently revealed by television journalist John Stossel on ABC’s 20/20. The stated motivation behind this gross intrusion and criminalization of private behavior is to protect us from making unwise choices.

John Stossel asked Ricardo Martinez, head of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), why can’t people at least have air bag on/off switches. Martinez responded by saying that society makes decisions about what benefits most people, and most people benefit from air bags. Stossel interviewed Yale University’s Professor Kelley D. Brownell, director of the Center for Eating & Weight Disorders who thinks Americans eat too many hamburgers and French fries. Professor Brownell wants government to tax fatty foods and those with little nutritional content and use the proceeds to subsidize fruits, vegetables and other nutritious foods. He’s suggested that some of the tax proceeds be used to build bike and hiking trails.

I’m wondering just when Americans are going to decide that we’ve had enough government meddling in our lives. It is nobody’s business whether I eat eggs sunny side up, drive without wearing seat belts, or pig out on hamburgers and French fries. I’d like someone to show me Congress’s constitutional authority for government protecting me from making unwise choices. Those who believe government should be in the business of making us take care of ourselves, should tell us where does it all end? Should government decide what time we go to bed? After all sleep is vital to good health. Should government force us to exercise, read wholesome literature, and bathe regularly?

The people who advocate a nanny government (a better term is Nazi government) are cowards. You say, "What do you mean, William?" Take Kelley Brownell. If he doesn’t want me to eat that Big Mac and French fries, let him walk up to my table and remove them from my plate. He wants no part of doing that because he doesn’t want to meet his maker this year so he prefers using the brutal forces of government. "The rest is mine;

When I was young, bullies use to pick on me, take food off my lunch tray and otherwise harass me. That’s until I followed the advice of my father who told me that if you let a bully get away with one thing, the next day it’s going to be something else and the following day something else again. He told me that the bullying won’t stop until I decide to stand up and fight. He said that even if I lose the fight, the next time I’m bullied, stand up and fight again. Let the bully know that when he bullies, win, lose or draw, he has a fight on his hands. Eventually he will stop. I think Americans should employ my Dad’s advice. As long as we stand as lambs before the slaughter you can bet that there’ll be no end to Congress’s bureaucratic stooges bullying us.

This is still America, last I checked anyway, yes we have ‘freedom’ here but ‘freedom’ is, never was and never will be ‘Free.’ Those of us who like to eat hamburgers and greasy fries must take responsibility by a) walking around with a big butt b) doing exercise or c) (in my case) taking cholesterol lowering pills and *trying* to stay away from the greasy stuff.

If we don’t want to wear seatbelts, or helmets, WE, not Congress, must pay in pain, time (in hospitals, rehabs w/e), or loss of body parts. I’m firmly convinced I would never have survived, some of, the accidents I was in had I been hog-tied to the seat. The insurance companies, and Medical providers, ALWAYS lobby for these laws but I haven’t heard of a single case where after such a law was passed the insurance company says, "Oh with your 20 year perfect driving record (not mine) we’ve decided that your next ___ year’s insurance is on us." Has a hospital ever said, "Now that our ER doctors and nurses won’t have to be patching up all the accidents maybe we should offer breast enlargement at half price?" Now stop laughing and reread this paragraph in it, under sarcasm, is the point I’m trying to make. The answer to both is NO! And unless an insurance company or hospital administrator is reading this, and wants to prove me wrong, I don’t think it ever will be!

The ‘it’s good for you’ doesn’t stop at the things listed above. What if a slimy politician took it in his, or her, head that tattooing is wrong? Or certain subjects can’t be tattooed on anybody? Like large breasted blondes, skulls, flames, or spider webs? I hope I’m NOT giving them any ideas because I have all these. This can be taken as far as you want to go like; they pass a law that ONLY Army, Marine, Navy, Airforce w/e tattoos are kosher. Or just Democrat or Republican ink is allowed. How about the ONLY lower back, female, tattoo that will be allowed is a ‘GodSmack Sun?’ Okay tattooists stop salivating imagining how much business you’ll get by people running out to get their favorite tattoo done. And remember the upswing will only last until enforcement duties are figured out, i.e., the local Police, County cops, State Police or help us all if the FBI gets the job. Actually help them I don’t need any help!

And of course that’s not the only thing ‘good for you.’ This has been tried but what if Congress actually passed a law banning Rock & Roll, Country, Blues, Rock-a-Billy or Rap music. Or what if they legislate pianos, Violins and Trumpets are the only acceptable instruments? No electric guitars, fiddles, Blues Harps or Saxophones? And of course subsidizing lessons is another way to do, almost, the same thing!

Americans are lucky the founding fathers came from Europe where Religion – a belief in their God – was considered ‘good for you’ so it was mandated in some places; which is where ‘The First Amendment’ came from. If European governments had mandated seatbelts on cable cars and horses, and or required at least 4 oz. of meat at dinner — chicken, beef or fish — there may have been another Bill of Rights. This one saying, something like, "Congress shall make no law requiring citizens to do anything somebody thinks will be good for them." Unless, of course, any of them made, or sold, seatbelts or had anything to do with producing, or selling, meat. In 1776 that was, almost, everybody. This was long before people either ate meat or were vegetarians. In fact getting enough to eat was more important than the cholesterol!" Now a few quotes;

"The career of a politician mainly consists in making one part of the nation do what it does not want to do, in order to please and satisfy the other part of the nation. It is the prolonged sacrifice of the rights of some persons at the bidding and for the satisfaction of other persons. The ruling idea of the politician – stated rather bluntly – is that those who are opposed to him exist for the purpose of being made to serve his ends, if he can get power enough in his hands to force these ends upon them." — Auberon Herbert

"There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him." — Robert Heinlein

"The most basic question is not what is best but who shall decide what is best." — Thomas Sowell

http://www.total-knowledge.com/~willyblues/
From; Willys Jokes archieves

" Freedoms just another word for
Nothin’ left to loose…"
And the Bushy Admin. has a year and a half to get us there!
Ya know, my Dad likes to say that a man is only as good as his word. Doesn’t that apply to our government also…???
Why don’t we ask the Navajo…?

http://blackmesais.org/McCain_bill0805.htm

If this bill passes…they’ll have nothin’ left to loose too! At the hands of Bush contributors!

He said it all in Michael Moores – Fahrenheit 911, " All my friends are here tonight, the haves, and the have mores!" Bush did, on camera!

Where has all the integrity gone?

And if that don’t get ya PO’d enough…dig up FEMA on the net. Federal Emergency Management Act, yes the laws they can and will enact in case of National disaster (nuclear war).

Freedom?…yeah right!

Feb 9

Myself & my mum live in a 2 bedroom flat. Our energy provider is Scottish Power. We had a new meter installed at the beginning of december & in 3 months our energy bill is nearly £1100. Surely this cannot be correct?! There is only two of us, we are rarely in during the day & about 90% of electrical appliances are switched off at the socket. Our hot water heater has been broken for about a year and a half so we don’t even have any hot water so it’s not like the electricity is constantly heating the hot water supply. (We have an electric shower though, just incase you’re wondering) We’re at a loss what to do because surely we can’t be running up that amount of electricity in a 2 bedroom flat!

Has anyone ever had this issue with any other providers, or scottish power? What steps did you take to resolve this. & if you can tell me, if you have approx the same living conditions, how much do you pay per month?

Thankyou
The old and new meter readings are written on a sticker in the cupboard where the meter was.. the old is about 3400 & the new 34500.
I’ve actually just noticed it this morning.
& the meter reading is now about 46,000

may well be a mistake in the actual meter readings. You may have had an imperial meter before and now have a metric meter and the gas/electricity companies take the same reading regardless. Also don’t except an estimated reading, tell them the actual reading yourself. (I don’t know how these companies get away with ‘estimated readings’ could you ever imagine your boss saying ‘you’ve earnedd about x amount this month’?!?!) Is there a chance any one could be splicingelectricityy?

Feb 5

1.) Are you an electric utility customer?

a.) Yes

b.) No

2.) What is your age range?

a.) 18-25

b.) 26-35

c.) 36-55

d.) 56 or older

3.) What is your household’s annual income?

a.) 0-25k

b.) 25,001 to 40k

c.) 40,001 to 65k

d.) 65,001 to 100k

e.) >100k

4.) How does your power company generate its electricity?

a.) Nuclear

b.) Coal

c.) Oil or Gas

d.) Or renewable (wind, solar, geothermal, hydroelectric)

5.) If your energy provider offered renewable sources of electricity (wind, solar, geothermal, hydroelectric) how much more would you be willing to pay per month to switch?

a.) 0$

b.) <$5

c.) <$10

d.) <$25

e.) <$40

6.) What percentage of your available household fixtures are currently using compact fluorescent light bulbs?

a.) 0%

b.) >25%

c.) >50%

d.) >75%

e.) 76-100%

7.) Based on factors such as average cost of electricity in the U.S., energy usage per bulb, lifetime expectancy of each light bulb, and difference in price, DID YOU KNOW that you would save 54.23$ per 75 watt standard type a incandescent light bulb replaced by a compact fluorescent 20 W bulb that gives off the equivalent light?

a.) Yes

b.) No

8.) Will knowing this change your decision to switch to compact fluorescents next time you shop for light bulbs?

a.) Yes

b.) No

c.) I already knew this

9.) How do you believe the Bush Administration and the past Congress has performed with regards to curbing CO2 pollution?

a.) Irresponsibly

b.) Adequately

c.) Admirably

10.) Do you believe that climate change will have a negative affect on you in your lifetime?

a.) Yes

b.) No

c.) Maybe

11.) Do you believe that climate change will negatively affect your children?

a.) Yes

b.) No

c.) Maybe

12.) How does climate change rate in your concerns when selecting office holders?

a.) #1 concern

b.) #2 concern

c.) #3 concern

d.) #4 concern

Not on my list of political concerns

13.) Which of the following were you aware of?:

a.) At the current rate of climate change an estimated 25% of the current U.S. population will be under water.

b.) Global warming increases drought and famine and play a factor in millions starving to death within the next century onwards. The reduced rainfall has played large role in the record # of acres burned in wildfires the last several seasons.

c.) Global warming is raising ocean temperatures, which contributes to the decline of coral reefs in turn damaging fish populations, and higher ocean temperatures also plays a factor in frequency and strength of hurricanes.

14.) Knowing some of the dangers of global warming and how it will affect the United States and the world in a negative way, how would you now rate climate change as an issue when selecting office holders?

a.) #1 concern

b.) #2 concern

c.) #3 concern

d.) #4 concern

e.) Not on my list of political concerns

15.) In the 1990’s, the government could have prevented today’s high gasoline prices by placing a 10% tax on gasoline at the time. Do you wish they had done this?

a.) Yes

b.) No

1.) Are you an electric utility customer?
.) Yes

2.) What is your age range?
b.) 26-35

3.) What is your household’s annual income?
d.) 65,001 to 100k

4.) How does your power company generate its electricity?
b.) Coal

5.) If your energy provider offered renewable sources of electricity (wind, solar, geothermal, hydroelectric) how much more would you be willing to pay per month to switch?
d.) <$25

6.) What percentage of your available household fixtures are currently using compact fluorescent light bulbs?
b.) >25%

7.) Based on factors such as average cost of electricity in the U.S., energy usage per bulb, lifetime expectancy of each light bulb, and difference in price, DID YOU KNOW that you would save 54.23$ per 75 watt standard type a incandescent light bulb replaced by a compact fluorescent 20 W bulb that gives off the equivalent light?
a.) Yes

8.) Will knowing this change your decision to switch to compact fluorescents next time you shop for light bulbs?
c.) I already knew this

9.) How do you believe the Bush Administration and the past Congress has performed with regards to curbing CO2 pollution?
b.) Adequately

10.) Do you believe that climate change will have a negative affect on you in your lifetime?
c.) Maybe

11.) Do you believe that climate change will negatively affect your children?
c.) Maybe

12.) How does climate change rate in your concerns when selecting office holders?
Not on my list of political concerns

13.) Which of the following were you aware of?:

a.) At the current rate of climate change an estimated 25% of the current U.S. population will be under water.

b.) Global warming increases drought and famine and play a factor in millions starving to death within the next century onwards. The reduced rainfall has played large role in the record # of acres burned in wildfires the last several seasons.

c.) Global warming is raising ocean temperatures, which contributes to the decline of coral reefs in turn damaging fish populations, and higher ocean temperatures also plays a factor in frequency and strength of hurricanes.

14.) Knowing some of the dangers of global warming and how it will affect the United States and the world in a negative way, how would you now rate climate change as an issue when selecting office holders?
e.) Not on my list of political concerns

15.) In the 1990’s, the government could have prevented today’s high gasoline prices by placing a 10% tax on gasoline at the time. Do you wish they had done this?
b.) No

I know the world is warming, you have to be very ignorant to disagree. But there is no one alive that knows why, this man made crap I just don’t buy sorry…. The world has been warming long before the start of fuels burning, granite it doesn’t help but I mean really you think this is the main reason???? The Desert areas have been expanding for the last 10,000 years according to history think they had 100,000sqf factories and big SUV’s then???
The fact is we don’t’ know crap when it comes to this issue we can only assume, The reason you see global warming pop up so much lately is I mean its hot it sells it makes money believe it or not! These guys doing all this research make money they don’t do it for free and as long as money is thrown to them by governments they will claim things that will bring it…. We are warming and to be honest not a person in this world can explain it.We are warming at a faster rate simply because we are losing more and more ice caps the more we lose the faster it moves. open you freg. and test it it will stay cold for a while then the percent of warming will go up faster and faster as it loses its chill. I don’t even think its rocket science., just a Little logical thinking.

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